>
> I have never been more sorry to have asked for help as I am right
now.
Hi there
You not only asked for help, you asked for opinions. Those opinions
can and did cover both negative and positive. If you are not ready to
accept critical comments then you should not ask for opinions.
Letterboxers are probably the most opinionated and passionate group I
have ever belonged to. That isn't necessarily a negative as if
questions are asked on any letterboxing chatlist you are assured to
get a variety of points of view.
>
> First of all, I am not a gamer, I am a letterboxer, and just
because
> I have something better to do on a Saturday instead of sitting in
> front of my computer waiting for responses should not make me
> suspect.
(snippy comments back won't give you much cachet)
You didn't put much effort into giving much back ground, and since
you joined this group on the same day you posted your message then
you aren't a known quantity. Thus no one knows if you are for real or
not. Most folks that join this or other chatlists usually write a
post similar to..."Hi my name is Joy, I'm a new boxer, blah, blah,
blah." Rather than that you came right out and advised what you were
going to do and wanted info on methods to use on your project.
Opinions were asked for and you received them. Questions were asked
of you and they were late in coming and not fully answered.
>
> Maybe I did not leave a lot of info, but I thought this was a
> relatively simple idea, and was not expecting the inquisition.
>
> Next, I volunteer for a 100-year-old community organization, which
is
> trying to build a playground.
Okay, but still you didn't furnish that info before, nor bothered to
mention the name of your organization even in this post.
I'm sorry that is not some monumental
> earth/life saving cause, but it is an important one where I am.
Play grounds for kids are monumental.
>
> I never said that I would list or mention boxes not planted by us.
I
> just said that if someone where not satisfied with only finding 15
> then they could do others, which would have to be with clues found
by
> their own means.
>
> I don't see why anyone would try to find other boxes not listed in
> the rally during the rally because it's a race, also I don't see
> people leaving boxes out in the open because they would help the
> competition, and therefore I don't get that argument.
>
> Also, as for letterboxing being a secret, it's not, at least here.
In
> fact, two Saturdays ago, I went to a conference in which
letterboxing
> was the topic. It was geared for people who have never heard of it
> and taught them the ropes. Over 150 people were in that room and
> they all took away that letterbox was for everyone, which it is,
and
> were chomping at the bit to go out and tell people. So, to capture
> the new excitement and offer an opportunity to current boxers, we
> thought of this idea. And you know, someone told you. Maybe they
> should not have to keep it a secret.
>
> If you don't like the idea of paying for clues, that's fine, and I
> respect that. Yes, I actually respect differing opinions. Novel,
> isn't it? Obviously, if you don't like the idea, no one is forcing
> you to do it. If absolutely no one agreed with this idea, then no
one
> would come, and that would be the end of that. But many people do
> things for a cause they believe in, that they wouldn't do otherwise.
> I just paid $2 for a 2 spoonfuls of ice cream for my son's music
> program at school. Would I have paid an ice cram vendor so much for
> so little? No, but I did. Would you normally want to pay for a
clue?
> No, but we have many supporters who would.
>
> Lastly, I asked for help. Yes, I expected some to have negative
> comments, but I also expected common courtesy. Instead of
> saying, "Are you this?" and "Are you that?" in a nasty tone, you
> could have said, "I think it would be better if you did that or
> that." My 6-year-old knows that.
Nasty Tone?
Unfortunately there is absolutely no tone on my computer. Writing is
tone less. Readers of chatlists should be fully aware of this problem
in computer communication. I notice that you are willing to give
quite a bit of info in your complaint(the above) regarding the input
you received and reduced them to what your 6 year old would know. Why
not furnish more info regarding what you proposed and for whom and
leave out the comparison in which you attempt to reduce the imput you
receive to less than what a 6 year old would do.
You folks are so quick to
> criticize.
Geeze, you asked for input, said you respected differing opinions,
now you criticize those differing opinions. Opinions can be critical!!
I bet most are only this way on the internet because I
> doubt that you would have the nerve to speak like that had I asked
> this in person.
I have been pretty direct in life, so you would lose the bet.
>
> I understand that everyone here loves letterboxing and wants to see
> it continue in a pleasant and fun manner.
Yep, many hate to see it commercialized, and many see your use in
using the name "Letterboxing" for your project as being a problem.
What you are proposing isn't "Letterboxing" at all. I do not think a
description is necessary if you are a letterboxer, but what you have
described doesn't seem to fit the hobby/game that most of us play.
I do have a suggestion for your fund raiser and that would be to call
it a "Treasure Hunt". Plant some of your organizations tee shirts in
various locations and sell clues to those locations. You could even
make up some special shirts just for your event. Make the clues as
easy or as obscure and difficult as you like. Most folks would
understand "Treasure Hunt" and it wouldn't need any real description
of what the heck it was. Charge what you wish. I'm sure many finders
would be happier with a tee shirt than a stamp image.
But, holy cow, some of you
> are like Gollum in Lord of the Rings. Go and keep your "precious."
I
> doubt I will respond to any further comments.
>
> I appreciate the emails of support some have sent.
You should appreciate the responses that "You" asked for and received.
Would you have felt better if your post was ignored? (not looking for
any repartee, so no response is necessary)
Don